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I just wanted to give you a big congratulations to how far your guide has come xD. I still remember how it used to be; having a lot of potential but it was slightly rough and unpolished in the edges. Now it looks overall to me to be a well written guide with a lot of depth and insight. I myself have written a Lyra guide a few years back which I no longer update, because I was extremely busy, and I remember the times when it used to be quite like how yours was before, and feeling a such a huge sense of acomplishment when you improved it so much it actually is a good guide for players to follow. Once again, kudos to you for the big improvement and the continous updates. Keep up your great work :D
Thank you so much for your kind words! Your guide was actually the one that made me want to start writing a guide, because it hadn't been updated for a while and I didn't want potential newbies forgetting about
~Pasu
In short, the answer to whether you should build
As a side note, in Blitz it actually works quite well, and I would recommend it for Blitz as the extra health really comes in useful against the all-too-common burst heroes (especially if you have the epic talent for the extra crystal ratio). Start off with
Hope this helped!
~Pasu
I would agree that during the early game,
~Pasu
~Pasu
Once again, thanks a lot for the guide!
1. Contraption is an item that gives a lot of map control, max hp, energy recharge and cool down reduction. It is definitely a item worth building no matter whether your team is ahead or not, this is very important in higher ELO. This even shows in your clip, if they had vision. The game would have went the other way
2.Inara currently have great ganking protential, as her passive allows her to roam around jungle very effectively, and is able to assist any lane faster then any other jungler. Her Ultimate and B, almost guarantee securing a kill, as you can quickly run pass the enemy laner. Slow, dash, and kick them in the other direction
3.As Lyra, you shouldn't be blocking skill shot, especially with the build you suggested, as it is easy for you to die as well. What you should do is play like an adc, stay in back line. Auto, and heal those who unfortunately got hit by a skill shot of enemies.
4. Adagio is a weaker version of Lyra? It is true that adagio's heal does not exceed Lyra's heal. But however it does have more burst healing. In team fight, often adaigo's heal is way more powerful then Lyra, as Lyra's Q durability gets consumed by enemy tanks, making it less effective. And a good adiago's ult provides great zoning power
5. Weapon Vox is a joke? Are you kidding me. Vox has great kiting protential. And breaking point + bone saw allows WP Vox to ramp up damage real fast, it is definitely a threat to the team and should be taken care of ASAP, if necessary. Atlas Pauldron need to be brought.
There is a lot more error I want to point out, but sadly I'm out of time. It seems like to me you are more of a Cp Lyra fabricated as a support. I think it's better if you review your guide before posting, do more research and don't mislead those new comers to vainglory, thank you
First of all, I say that capacitor plate is a must buy. Please read the guide throughly before saying "the idea of not building capacitor's plate is just ridiculous and absurd". I am merely stating that I would usually take Alternating Current first.
Next, about the item Contraption. I stated clearly that I do not like to buy the item, but I do recommend it for a reason, and that is the reason you stated, for mostly map vision. However, let me point out that Contraption is not even available in 5v5, so the clip I showed would not have been affected at all, Contraption is a 3v3 item only.
Now onto the topic of Inara. In all the matches I have played, the team with Inara has always lost. The reason is because she is good only in the jungle, and has no sustain. The only way to build her is burst and unless you are able to get a very good start or the enemy laner keeps overextending, her gank potential is very low compared to say Koshka, Reza, or Taka.
On to your third point, which is that as a support, you should not block skillshots. If the support isn't there to tank damage from enemies, what else are they there for? They offer the most utility to the team if played right, and from my experience in getting to Simply Amazing in soloq, the support is worth way less than the laner. Furthermore, if you are fed enough (which you should be as Lyra has an insanely powerful early game as highlighted in my guide), you can easily tank damage from non-fed enemies with only Fountain, Crucible, and War Treads.
On to your fourth point, that Adagio is apparently a stronger version of Lyra. The only thing Adagio has that Lyra doesn't is hard CC, that being a stun that is quite obvious and easy to block. And as I said when highlighting why Lyra is the best support, Adagio needs to cast his A on himself to be able to hit his ult anyway, which means that his "burst" heal is going to be on himself and not his teammates, unlike Lyra.
And WP Vox deals by far the least damage out of the WP laners. I would like you to name one WP laner that does less damage, apart from SAW when he's pinned down by his stacks (and which no one plays anyway).
There. I countered all of your arguments, and invite you to point out more of those "errors" that you mentioned. And while you're at it, please fix up your grammar, I had a hard time deciphering what you were trying to say.
~Pasu
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