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Thanks for every word of this, it is amazing advice.

I haven't seen a good Petal jungle yet. Usually when I see a Petal jungle, they get squashed on the entire game. Not saying it can't happen, but I think it's that most people don't know how to jungle as Petal.

I totally agree with iiBlue. This is some of the craziest reasoning I've heard of. The very reasons DoudJr is saying Petal is great in the lane is actually why Petal is worse. Petals greatest strength is her range, and that is all given away in the jungle. Petal has the longest range of any hero, why would you not exploit this? With so many blind corners and bushes everywhere, it is WAY TOO EASY to gank a ranged player in the jungle. I'll admit there are a lot of nice links and well thought out explanations, but my real experience in 300+ games does not bear his advice out. Petal is terrible in the jungle. Hard to hide in bushes with minions floating around, low armor and health for close quarter 1v1 battles and no stuns to make quick getaways if ganked. When changing targets with petal, her minions can be on the opposite side of your new target which will not allow them to catch your target unless the enemy hero practically stops. Example:

Enemy A on your left. You are attacking him at range and he is killed. Enemy B is on your right and making a getaway. Your minions are running from where Enemy A was and are trying their hardest to get to Enemy B. Your minions will not catch him unless a team mate stuns, or you have Frostburn with superior boots (and their boots are on cooldown). Your minions are almost ALL of your DPS.

This makes battles that have multiple fronts generally hard to pursue weakened enemies with Petal in the jungle. This is only an example and I'm not saying this is always the case. But it is not as easy for Petal like it is for a true jungler. This is only my 2 cents, but I've yet to see anyone own the jungle while playing Petal. I'll go into the jungle while Petal to support a team mate or steal mines, but not to level. Can Petal jungle, sure...i guess. Can Petal jungle well...never seen it or been able to do it. Way more effective in the lane.

As for kiting, it would work great for battles in your own jungle. When you can kite toward your own wall, or turret where there is little chance of an enemy hero coming from behind, it works great. But kiting in the enemy jungle or near the gold mine is EXTREMELY risky. When you pop up on the enemy minimap, it is way too easy for the enemy to get you from behind or from the side and wipe you out.

By all means try to jungle with Petal, but I think this is bad advice.

I did not say that 2 laners is better than one, only that it all comes down to player ability. If the solo laner is not good and is getting killed, those turrets will go down quick with 2 heroes beating on them. Nothing wrong with what you said, but all your "evidence" that proves me wrong...somehow....falls apart with an unskilled player in the lane.

99% of my games are all PUG's and I'm not part of a group. I'm still in the "Pretty Good" Skill Tier with 19 Karma. I'm not saying I'm great, but I'd say I've played enough games with enough random players to have a good understanding of what I'm talking about.

For the original question from Black, the reason I asked you about checking the scoreboard during the match was to see if you watched how the enemy Krul was being built. If he is a weapon build, then you want to go with Metal Jacket, Aegis or Steel Pauldrons. If he is crystal build, you want to get Lifespring, Aegis, Kinetic Shield etc.

I can play petal in jungle....usually lane with her but love to solo jungle her.

If Krul is being aggressive just get that slowing ability....kite kite....boom boom....bye Krul!

Petal is very versatile. I always use Eve Harvest! Get attack speed to live longer through bursts and crystal Power to get bigger heals every time your little guys bite!