This is the ascending order and players start at Not Bad. Below Not Bad means you went down from your starting point and above obviously means you improved your elo. I got this from the official reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/vainglorygame/wiki/faq Ask Again Later Working on it Getting There Not Bad (zero) Decent-ish Pretty Good The Hotness Simply Amazing Pinnacle of Awesome Vainglorious (Other higher tiers?)

That sounds like a very bursty Joule. I also recommend you try to build her completely weapon power (Sorrowblade, Tyrant's, Tornado), which is also very strong when paired with some defense.

yeah no, you can vent but it's wrong to target, witchhunt, or name. just don't please.

@MaximusP I'm not saying that it couldn't work, however the SAW and Ringo combo loses to 2 supports and a carry. 1) Both are weak without proper lane farm, and neither can get jungle farm properly until level 6-9. This means that they are going to be much weaker than usual because they don't have proper gold. 2) The support and versatility/teamplay from another hero is superior to the moderate damage increase from a second (but somewhat starved) carry. Again, neither SAW nor Ringo...

What Vainglory site? This site isn't regularly checked by devs. The devs are currently trying to improve matchmaking after complaints of this patch. @Horus_The_Dragon And why does VG need to explain for players? They aren't responsible for what the players decide to do. Why do you want an explanation?

"avoid tanks and high damage champions/builds" and that leaves out who exactly? selfish taka will be selfish.

Nice and reliable build unlike a lot of builds on here that emphasize too much offense unrealistically. Bonesaw is one of my favorites and is an extremely underrated offense that will wreck with an ally WP support. I personally think Adagio should get at least Blazing Salvo before mid game so that he can hold his own. Very complete guide overall, though I can't say that this is 100% beginner friendly.

I think you forgot shield pierce, and if you didn't, you're missing out!

I don't think your types of team setups (number of ranged and number of melee) are realistic for Vainglory. Yes those are the possibilities, but almost all of those setups are deficient in some way. The so called chariot team is the only viable team in higher level games. Obviously some heroes can fulfill ranged and melee roles alike and are exceptions to this (like Adagio, who can tank and get up close), but the number of ranged and melee has more to do with proper gold farming than it has...

@aadams The reason said "below the Hotness Tier" is because of personal experience. I very rarely run into premade teams below that level that are actually a threat. I easily agree with your other points, however I think it's even worse to have the game notify you like you mentioned. Pretty soon that could become a default surrender game mechanic and reduce the fun and possibilities of assymetric (not unfair) matches.