Actually that jungle route that you do is quite popular I do agree that to never start at the outer side of the jungle but your way is common I develop my own jungle route that is still viable. Go towards the treat in the middle side of your ally jungle then work your down to the small ones then get the big treat of if the enemy is trying to take it then contest it and pressure them into not taking it or punishing them for taking it
Great guide. Got a question tho. Invading with 3 vs jungling seems a bit contradictory. Do u mean early invading is good and after that dont engage anymore? Or is the jungling chapter written without early invading?
Thx for the great info again.
Early game invade to gain early jungle advantage. After that, laner needs to head up and farm the gold in lane and not let it go to waste.
I don't completely agree on the "don't invade the enemy jungle" bit. It's given me great results on most of the games I've played, with the occasional exception - as Catherine, I aim to first secure the twin creeps next to the jungle market by the enemy side (I'm usually there by the time they spawn), then go back towards my own side. If I see an enemy already there, depending on who it is and if I have a teammate nearby, I may choose to engage or retreat, but it does give me a greater picture of the jungle situation. Of course this is a very situational analysis, and it may be that it's not the case at higher ELO.
I do agree on the rest of the points, especially laner role and location, location, location!
Of course, and I totally agree with your side. I don't advise taking enemy side twin camp at start because you could die if your teammates don't have the same idea. it's better to take your side twin camp in most cases.
I'm not sure where I said not to invade, but I will check on that. Thanks.
Just a suggestion, but some people have trouble Reading excessive amount of colored text, especially neon colors. Maybe change it back to white? I don't know if it's just me but it took me a little longer to read because of the colored text. Otherwise amazing guide!
My bad. I'll change it when I add more to this guide amd organize it better. I felt that more people would be interested in reading a colorful guide, but I guess I was wrong.
I'm only playing pretty good, but a few observations....
I typically lane with saw and i prefer to use the jungle shop instead of going back to base. Basically, using the jungle shop is an opportunity to cruise through and offer support to the junglers while waiting for the lane minions to make it back to my turret area.
Perhaps this doesnt work at higher skill levels, but its working great for my team at pretty good.
It only works if you rotate down to jungle with your teammates nearby. If you go down by yourself and the enemy junglers have good vision, you coulld give them a free kill.
My point is that it depends on who you're playing with and at what level. I've yet to add such specific details to this guide. If something works for you, then keep doing it.
I'm only playing pretty good, but a few observations....
I typically lane with saw and i prefer to use the jungle shop instead of going back to base. Basically, using the jungle shop is an opportunity to cruise through and offer support to the junglers while waiting for the lane minions to make it back to my turret area.
Perhaps this doesnt work at higher skill levels, but its working great for my team at pretty good.
Just a suggestion, but some people have trouble Reading excessive amount of colored text, especially neon colors. Maybe change it back to white? I don't know if it's just me but it took me a little longer to read because of the colored text. Otherwise amazing guide!
I don't completely agree on the "don't invade the enemy jungle" bit. It's given me great results on most of the games I've played, with the occasional exception - as Catherine, I aim to first secure the twin creeps next to the jungle market by the enemy side (I'm usually there by the time they spawn), then go back towards my own side. If I see an enemy already there, depending on who it is and if I have a teammate nearby, I may choose to engage or retreat, but it does give me a greater picture of the jungle situation. Of course this is a very situational analysis, and it may be that it's not the case at higher ELO.
I do agree on the rest of the points, especially laner role and location, location, location!
Great guide. Got a question tho. Invading with 3 vs jungling seems a bit contradictory. Do u mean early invading is good and after that dont engage anymore? Or is the jungling chapter written without early invading?
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Great guide. Got a question tho. Invading with 3 vs jungling seems a bit contradictory. Do u mean early invading is good and after that dont engage anymore? Or is the jungling chapter written without early invading?
Thx for the great info again.
Early game invade to gain early jungle advantage. After that, laner needs to head up and farm the gold in lane and not let it go to waste.
I don't completely agree on the "don't invade the enemy jungle" bit. It's given me great results on most of the games I've played, with the occasional exception - as Catherine, I aim to first secure the twin creeps next to the jungle market by the enemy side (I'm usually there by the time they spawn), then go back towards my own side. If I see an enemy already there, depending on who it is and if I have a teammate nearby, I may choose to engage or retreat, but it does give me a greater picture of the jungle situation. Of course this is a very situational analysis, and it may be that it's not the case at higher ELO.
I do agree on the rest of the points, especially laner role and location, location, location!
Of course, and I totally agree with your side. I don't advise taking enemy side twin camp at start because you could die if your teammates don't have the same idea. it's better to take your side twin camp in most cases.
I'm not sure where I said not to invade, but I will check on that. Thanks.
Just a suggestion, but some people have trouble Reading excessive amount of colored text, especially neon colors. Maybe change it back to white? I don't know if it's just me but it took me a little longer to read because of the colored text. Otherwise amazing guide!
My bad. I'll change it when I add more to this guide amd organize it better. I felt that more people would be interested in reading a colorful guide, but I guess I was wrong.
I'm only playing pretty good, but a few observations....
I typically lane with saw and i prefer to use the jungle shop instead of going back to base. Basically, using the jungle shop is an opportunity to cruise through and offer support to the junglers while waiting for the lane minions to make it back to my turret area.
Perhaps this doesnt work at higher skill levels, but its working great for my team at pretty good.
It only works if you rotate down to jungle with your teammates nearby. If you go down by yourself and the enemy junglers have good vision, you coulld give them a free kill.
My point is that it depends on who you're playing with and at what level. I've yet to add such specific details to this guide. If something works for you, then keep doing it.
I typically lane with saw and i prefer to use the jungle shop instead of going back to base. Basically, using the jungle shop is an opportunity to cruise through and offer support to the junglers while waiting for the lane minions to make it back to my turret area.
Perhaps this doesnt work at higher skill levels, but its working great for my team at pretty good.
I do agree on the rest of the points, especially laner role and location, location, location!
Thx for the great info again.