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I totally agree. People honestly get Kraken-crazy. A great player will suddenly act like a noob the second the Kraken spawns. It's mind-boggling.

In addition to what others have said before this post, let me add this. Even if Kraken doesn't get sniped from you, during the Kraken fight you and/or your allies will be severely weakened, leaving yourselves open to getting picked off by any living enemy. If at least one of your heroes gets killed, the Kraken does you little good, since now you are in conflicting re-spawn cycles, which is the real endgame killer.

Also, especially don't go Kraken if there is only one enemy turret left and at least two enemy heroes are on long cool-downs. You don't need Kraken to kill half a turret, an enemy hero, and the Vain Crystal.

But most importantly, even if it seems like a bad time to go Kraken, don't abandon your team and refuse to help them try to get it. If all 3 of your team is alive and 2 of them are obviously going Kraken, GET YOUR BUTT DOWN THERE, and at least help check the bushes and ward off any potential snipers. Nothing's worse than two people showing up a the Kraken while the third person red-pings you from lane. Supporting your team to do something risky (and arguably stupid) is much better than dooming your team by refusing to help at all.

That being said... honestly, I feel the Kraken was put into the game to make sure SOMEBODY wins, but the conclusion I'm starting to reach is that if you need the Kraken to win, your team wasn't that good in the first place.

A new for me peeve, players who build all armor (usually Catherine). When they are on my team I've found the best option is to force our team to concede sooner than later, since eventually everyone levels enough that the defensive player no longer deals meaningful damage.

It happens often that I find an all-armor player on my team. And I have yet in my 400+ wins to notice my team managed a win with such a player.

Not sure if others agree with me on this one but I would rather surrender and move to the next game than continue in a game that I know we're going to lose. Particularly when two of the players are asking for surrender and at least one of the players goes afk. VERY frustrating.

I agree with @McPwn, that the kraken is there so someone wins (assuming one team captures it). If you're pushing the lane just fine without her, then leave her be. But don't abandon your teammates if they seem intent of the kraken.

@booyatribe It can save time to surrender, but I've noticed that while I've been on the bubble of Pretty Good and The Hotness that even when it seems over, you can come from behind and win. All it takes is one great push to swing the game into your favor (although that does mean that all of your team needs to work together, which in decent-ish could be a hard thing to ask).

yes, teamwork is a must and lately, it seems no one is really doing it. kinda frustrating.

Also, even if you Ace and they have longer respawn times, depending on how many turrets they have up, it's best to just push the Lane and not summon the Kraken. If you manage to only push 2 turrets before they kill the Kraken, you just gave their team 1500g which could put them ahead of you. I'll only down Kraken if they have 3 or fewer turrets up, if they fed us the entire game and our gear outclasses theirs by more than 1500g, or it's like the 2nd or 3rd time we've aced them - then it's obvious there's a huge skill difference and they won't be able to handle the Kraken.

When I'm playing Catherine and the other jungler (i think) red pings me when I go here, then red pings me when I go there, then red pings me when I go to the lane, then red pings me when I am back in the jungle.

Then I screw up and get red pinged three times.

Then at some point in the game I respawn and someone in the jungle is green pinging the kraken, but there are a bunch of minions banging on the last turret so I kill them before heading out and....you guessed it, get red pinged multiple times.

Jam your red ping where the sun don't shine. I wish it didn't exist.

This doesn't happen if you don't lock in too soon.

That's what you think. When the Koshka and Krul you thought were gonna jungle come in lane with you, it's a very sad moment. This happened to me more than I would've liked to experience.

I hate when a teammate wants to surrender as soon as the 15 minute mark hits and will just sit at the base and do nothing until we lose. It's happened to me thrice in the past two days. There should be some system after the match where we can let the developers know of inconsiderate and nonexistent team members.