This is a really thought provoking guide. Thank you! I'm a bit concerned about the early game part of the guide. By buying T2 boots, shield, and maybe SBG first, don't you hand the other team an advantage if they rush FoR? You are chunking in a lot of gold in T2 items early so the early game relies on the risk that your team fights always go in your favor from the get-go.

Terrific guide!!! Just tried your CP build against Celeste and Taka combo and it works wonders. The burst damage with CP does make you feel like an assassin and is a great counter to Celeste. When you decide to build CP vs WP, do you choose based on what your laner is doing or based on the opposing team comp?

I was Taka and my teammate was Krull. he put up a pretty good fight and it allowed us to win. his holding his own, even if he died a couple of times, let us level up in the jungle quickly. if he simply ran off, leaving the lane alone, we would have lost. leaving the lane alone simply doesn't make sense in any part of the early or mid-game. once my jungler gets some skills, believe me, i will come up and hang out in the lane with you. as been said before, you can't win without...

as a newbie to MOBA's i've been trolling the nightly GG thread and there are games where 2 can beat 3. how is this even possible? seems like witchcraft. would anyone be willing to write a guide about this? i'm sure it would contain a lot of useful and fascinating info for new players. thanks in advance to all the pros out there

to say that the Jungle is a SIDESHOW is too simplistic. of course we all have to lane eventually to win. that is unquestioned. the real question is WHEN. classic junglers simply cannot enter the lane effectively until at least level 4 and preferably level 6. depends on the character of course. once Glaive has afterburn, he can do whatever he wants. i digress. just played a game last night where the other team had 3 classic laners in the lane. our team had Krul in the lane...

just played a game last night where the other team had 3 in the lane. me and the other jungle guy leveled up quick and controlled all the mines. the solo laner was smart and kept near his turret and leveled up quick too. we won despite losing a turret early cause our minions were always stronger and they leveled up very slowly. it wasn't really close... my biggest fear is when i jungle alone while the other team has 2 junglers. if they are good at ganking and the laners don't help...

41 and new to MOBA's. this game sucked me right in

this was actually a really useful thread. i am new to MOBAs too and play solo (i guess pugging). games got a lot harder at decent-ish and i'm only winning a little more than half my games still trying out characters and builds and it's really a comfort to find out i am not the only one struggling the game is awesome though.