Good point! Thanks for the suggestion. But maybe I'l future proof it and call it 1.20 :P

Maybe it's just practice mode being buggy. I'll start paying more attention to them in game.

There's also one thing that I just can't work out. Do you have any idea what cause Petal's munions to rapidly heal themselves sometimes? I was trying to work it out in practice. At first I couldn't get them to heal at all, I'd walk everywhere, attack things, and still the damaged munions would remain damage. Then there came a point where I couldn't get them to *not* heal themselves back to full after a few second of not taking damage. It's like after the 5 minute mark munions start healing,...

Excellent guide. I was always curious just how much faster petal's energy replenished when she had more seeds so it's good to see it quantified. One thing I've found which really helps Petal to dominate in the early game is to take her A at level 1 AND level 2. It basically doubles her munions' strength and lets you win any shop fight.

Excellent point. Out of all those heroes, the one that I definitely pay most attention to is Skaarf as it's incredibly strong and can't really be dodged. It's incredibly satisfying to deny a Ringo his ult.

Well the shield is already part of FoR so you'd build that anyway, but then I suppose the question is do you spend 550 gold to upgrade to kinetic shield first, or 300 gold on an oakheart first? I've not tried to work that one out before so if I do that now... Supposing you are a level 4 Catherine with 50 armour, 89 shield and 973 health from a light shield only, upgrading to a kinetic shield increases your EHP against weapon by 243.25 and against crystal by 340.55. An oakheart on the other...

Sometimes you do need something else when stuns and silences aren't enough so I definitely wouldn't go with the max CDR build every time, but in a lot situations it really is enough. I'm going to fill in the final builds section eventually with that sort of information, but it's kind of boring really because I'd mostly be rehashing what can already be found in other guides already. Love your guide btw! It's hilarious and pretty damn spot on as a general how to support guide. I want to...

Sure. Hope you'll excuse the copy paste, but I answered pretty much this exact same question just yesterday on Reddit. "Fountain is the first item that is finished in this build, but I find that in most situations that's as far as you need to go down the traditional support item route. Catherine's utility as a support comes from her abilities. She has tankiness from the perk and B skill, a stun on her A and a silence on her C. Add to that the healing power of the fountain and...

Krul becomes very strong late game, but his weakness is that he can be shut down early game by stuns and burst damage. He also lacks sticking power so that you can just get away from if he builds too many stacks of spectral smite or breaking points. Krul can overcome that with a shiversteel, but in building a shiversteel he loses out on some defence and becomes prone to being burst down, especially if someone gets a stun on him.

I guess their Krul went for a rushed tornado trigger. The good thing about a clockwork Krul is that he's relatively unaffected by having stacks on himself. DMR is a handy way to overcome lowered attack speed because it activates instantly so you can get 2 hits in rapid succession. What tier are you playing in by the way? For me it's hotness/SA, but I have no idea how well this works in other tiers.