I made a smurf account to try a new build and I was shocked at how terrible people were. If you never played a MOBA and nobody told you what to do with certain characters, then the concept of jungle vs lane would be really hard for people to get. But this was soo out of hand. I know people are forced to play the tutorial, but it would be good (and bad I guess) for their to be a more in depth tutorial for people with no MOBA experience.

This really is not a good test to go by. For one, items with stacks a lot more important in team fights because they have time to get to higher stacks for prolonged fights. Also, if you buy 2 items this logic works but a lot of weapon power builds get 3 or more weapon items which completely change the situation.

Yeah, despite my earlier comment they are essential. I got away without them in the pretty decent, but the mobility you get from them is too important for higher teirs.

I'm not really familiar with Joule, but his moves seem to miss a lot, his jump spec was nerfed and his cannon width was nerfed. I have played a few games where a teammate played as Joule and he was an incredible support player, but I rarely win if there is a Joule on my team.

I'm sure joule is probably upset that he is left out of this conversation, but I hate playing with teammates that use Taka. I have played him a dozen times myself and was very disappointed with him. I used him on a guest account so the it was easy it dominate, but I rarely find decent Taka players in the hotness tier. He is easy to counter with flares and armor, lacks the ability to stay in any kind of long fight and is extremely squishy. I am repeatedly getting to late game fights and...

I don't use boots on Krul and it works great. Just pick your fights and buy them if you are getting ganked. I would say most characters need boots but some builds allow you to not use them. Especial when your teammates use warhorn.

I completely disagree. If you can convince the enemy to leave the jungle then you have ample oportunities to make money while the other team crowds the lane. If they are just tanking, the laner is responsible for not overextending and getting killed. Chances are if he is getting attacked 3v1, the teammates won't get there fast enough to make a difference. It is all situation of course. But laners need to learn to not over pursue the lane. Junglers generally have a harder time leveling...

What doudjr said. I prefer 2 junglers because there is better security and it allows your carry to level faster. Iron gaurd contract is almost always a great but until mid game.

Yeah, breaking point works great. It develops a bit slow in the jungle but it's pretty nasty once you get it.

Yeah, I meant the tier 2 boots I use breaking point on my Krul builds, but I never thought about it with petal. Sounds pretty legit with his kiting though.