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Tension Bow | Category: Weapon | Tier: 3 | Cost: 2900 +40 Weapon Power Passive: Every 6s, your next basic attack will deal 100 (+100% of bonus weapon power) bonus damage. Armorbreaker: +30% armor pierce (does not stack with other Armorbreakers) Tip: An effective way to surprise enemies with a sudden burst of damage. |
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1. If you have just this and aftershock, tyrant's monacle will be worse in every way than sorrowblade.
2. One or two hits per engagement is quite common
3. This is the only item that gives armor pierce and doesn't require you to attack five or so times in a row before it's effective
4. Sorrowblade costs 800 more gold
5. Making it true damage basically makes it deal twice as much damage. That means that you would have to attack more than 5 times or something for sorrowblade to be better. By that time the cooldown on this will be up.
4. Sorroblade costs 950 gold more, Tension Bow is 2150 gold, Sorrowblade is 3100 gold (at least in 1.1.7), the price of 2300 gold for Tension Bow has been wrong for ages.
Tension Bow is NOT true damage. This is a quote from my post on zyronl's guide:
"Damage without tension bow, without dice: 52
Damage without tension bow, with dice: 78
Damage with tension bow, with tension bow passive, with dice: 217
Damage with tension bow, without passive, with dice: 129
Damage with tension bow, with passive, without dice: 174
Damage with tension bow, without passive, without dice: 86"
The difference between the 2nd and 5th part is only 96. If it was true damage it would be higher than 180.
And yeah, DPS isn't distinguishable from burst damage, I didn't try to distinguish it. I'm a little surprised that you think my comment doesn't make tension bow sound good: the damage is 5 times as cheap! What's more, the alternatives to tension bow for armor pierce are both inconvenient to most builds that already have a lot of weapon power.
Also, I was wrong. Tension bow's passive's damage is not multiplied by criticals.
You are correct, I was operating under wrong assumptions.
It's now been confirmed that Tension Bow is actually +180 Weaspon Power on the proc, not 180 damage. This +180 Weapon power on top of that cannot crit. And is mitigated by armor.
This item is only useful on burst characters, if you plan on putting more that one or two hits on someone then you would be much better using sorrowblade. Not to mention that that 180 damage is NOT TRUE damage. It's extra basic attack damage every six seconds. So it can be blocked with armor. Imo it needs to be buffed to atleast be true damage, otherwise there are just better options out there.
Btw this item goes great on burst characters with aftershock and tyrants monacle
1. If you have just this and aftershock, tyrant's monacle will be worse in every way than sorrowblade.
2. One or two hits per engagement is quite common
3. This is the only item that gives armor pierce and doesn't require you to attack five or so times in a row before it's effective
4. Sorrowblade costs 800 more gold
5. Making it true damage basically makes it deal twice as much damage. That means that you would have to attack more than 5 times or something for sorrowblade to be better. By that time the cooldown on this will be up.
You may actually be wrong in your thesis there. What I believe you do not take into consideration is that TB's passive is true damage, not diminished by armor. Therefore it provides a minimum of 30 dps, possibly higher, dependent on the length of engagement. The damage of Sorrowblade gets diminished by armor. If we take Koshka as example with her 64 armor, Sorrowblade damage output translates into (150/1.64) 91.46 hp/hit. Of course it's difficult to establish dps here with other factors in play as crit chance by different heroes, attack speed and defensive armor items but it may be actually better in bang for buck comparison than you make it sound here :-)
Tension Bow is NOT true damage. This is a quote from my post on zyronl's guide:
"Damage without tension bow, without dice: 52
Damage without tension bow, with dice: 78
Damage with tension bow, with tension bow passive, with dice: 217
Damage with tension bow, without passive, with dice: 129
Damage with tension bow, with passive, without dice: 174
Damage with tension bow, without passive, without dice: 86"
The difference between the 2nd and 5th part is only 96. If it was true damage it would be higher than 180.
And yeah, DPS isn't distinguishable from burst damage, I didn't try to distinguish it. I'm a little surprised that you think my comment doesn't make tension bow sound good: the damage is 5 times as cheap! What's more, the alternatives to tension bow for armor pierce are both inconvenient to most builds that already have a lot of weapon power.
Also, I was wrong. Tension bow's passive's damage is not multiplied by criticals.
This item is only efficient if the passive is worth 750 gold to you.
To put it another way, you pay 4 gold for every damage you add to the first hit, while if you were to buy an item like sorrowblade you would be paying about 21 gold for each damage (5x as much), but it would apply on every hit, not just the first one, and crits could make it deal even more damage.
You may actually be wrong in your thesis there. What I believe you do not take into consideration is that TB's passive is true damage, not diminished by armor. Therefore it provides a minimum of 30 dps, possibly higher, dependent on the length of engagement. The damage of Sorrowblade gets diminished by armor. If we take Koshka as example with her 64 armor, Sorrowblade damage output translates into (150/1.64) 91.46 hp/hit. Of course it's difficult to establish dps here with other factors in play as crit chance by different heroes, attack speed and defensive armor items but it may be actually better in bang for buck comparison than you make it sound here :-)
To put it another way, you pay 4 gold for every damage you add to the first hit, while if you were to buy an item like sorrowblade you would be paying about 21 gold for each damage (5x as much), but it would apply on every hit, not just the first one, and crits could make it deal even more damage.